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web like it's 1996

2026-09-28 17:49:39.642408+02 by Dan Lyke 3 comments

The observation is one I can get behind: Charlie Stross @cstross@wandering.shop

I long for a world wide web that goes back to basics: Markdown for text, JPEG or PNG for images, *no* Javascript or other client-side execution, designed to be writable by a human being with a simple text editor and no fucking interactive/dynamic bullshit. Make it as advertising hostile as possible. And above all keep it *small* (as in: a large, sprawling web site should fit on 16Mb USB stick).

In other words, web like it's 1996 again.

The replies indicate that most people cannot conceive of such a world.

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#Comment Re: made: 2026-10-07 19:31:31.092781+02 by: Dan Lyke

I think the point of a new space is that it has to draw cool people there, show possibility of a better place. Nostalgia is only good for retreating into, not for venturing boldly forth, and much of what we remember from that time was the venturing.

#Comment Re: made: 2026-09-29 22:28:41.910118+02 by: Mars Saxman

I tried out Gemini a while back. I enjoyed the aesthetic, and the refreshing memory of a web which was designed for its users and not against them, but lost interest after the novelty faded. The old web had felt like a gateway into a larger world, and that motivated me to get involved; the Gemini universe felt more like a quiet little reference library tucked away from all the action, and I felt no draw to contribute.

#Comment Re: made: 2026-09-28 18:24:55.041527+02 by: spc476

Well, there is gopher, or for something a bit more modern, Gemini (not the AI, but the protocol).

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