Clinton pardons
2001-01-20 16:47:52+00 by Dan Lyke 9 comments
Clinton pardons over 100, the only one that really pisses me off is that John Deutch got off scot free.
2001-01-20 16:47:52+00 by Dan Lyke 9 comments
Clinton pardons over 100, the only one that really pisses me off is that John Deutch got off scot free.
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#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:58+00 by: phoffman
John Deutch used bad judgement in using his secure computer, but he used the same bad judgement that many (most?) of the folks in the CIA use. He has been excoriated in the press; why make him criminally liable for a common blunder?
I would imagine that the NSA has now helped their friends in the CIA monitor this type of blunder more carefully.
#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:58+00 by: Dan Lyke
Because Wen Ho Lee did less and spent a year in solitary confinement.
#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:58+00 by: petronius
Is anybody pissed that Clinton commuted the sentence of a cop killer? BTW, where can i find a complete list of everyone who was pardoned?
#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:58+00 by: Larry Burton
All you gotta do is ask. You can find the complete list here. http://www.washingtonpost.com/...tics/elections/pardons012001.htm
#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:58+00 by: phoffman
>Because Wen Ho Lee did less and spent a year in solitary confinement. It is not clear he did less, but that is a very valid point. My personal guess is that Mr. Lee was probably sloppier than Mr. Deutch, but I doubt we heard how sloppy either of them really was. Regardless, Mr. Lee was much more severely persecuted for something that his co-workers were doing at the same time.
#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:58+00 by: Dan Lyke
At conferences I've talked to a couple of people from Los Alamos who think that Lee was taken down for stuff everyone does there because there was need of a "Chinese spying" scare in various negotiations. And that productivity at Los Alamos has gone down the tubes because now everyone's crossing their "i"s and dotting their "t"s lest they be the next scapegoat. I've talked to nobody who's worked in intelligence or with secret information who doesn't think that Deutch should be strung up by his testicles for what he did. Especially given that as director he should be leading by example. Petronius, which cop killer did you have in mind? Out here in the bay area we mainly have uniformed officers killing the undercover cops.
#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:59+00 by: petronius
The cop killer mentioned in the article is: -Susan Rosenberg, a 1970s activist who was sentenced to 58 years in prison for her participation in the bungled 1981 Brink's armored car robbery that left two policemen and a guard dead in Rockland County, N.Y. In prison, Rosenberg has renounced all radical activity and been a model prisoner As usual, activists are perfectly willing to sacrifice working class schmoes like cops and security guards for the revolution.
#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:59+00 by: Dan Lyke
Well, at some point you've gotta ask if prison is about revenge, or reform. Personally, I don't want to be a part of society where prison is about revenge, as that just breeds a vicious cycle and nastiness. If we've managed to reform a prisoner we should count that as a victory.
#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:59+00 by: petronius
If we have reformed someone, that is a victory. But they still have to pay the piper. I'm just Catholic enough to feel that repentence without penance is cheap. Let her do her good works within the walls.