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How to measure Global Warming?

2007-06-18 20:56:27.042654+00 by ziffle 5 comments

Put it next to an Air Conditioner?


Is there one near where you live?

The best URL is surfacestations.org but he is moving the site - must have been slashdotted....

"Because of it's many decades of relatively stable operation, high station density, and high proportion of rural locations, the Cooperative Network has been recognized as the most definitive source of information on U.S. climate trends for temperature and precipitation"

As the occupied areas expand - would it not make sense to put the sensing devices away from buildings and pavement?

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#Comment Re: made: 2007-06-18 21:22:01.942303+00 by: Dan Lyke

So I popped up that web page, went off to do something else, came back and immediately made a weblog entry referencing it, which I then had to delete when I realized I'd found it on Flutterby... The comparison of Marysville with Orland was particularly interesting.

#Comment Re: made: 2007-06-18 22:12:17.459317+00 by: ebradway

The stations used for baseline measurements by the scientific community are the managed as the Long-Term Ecological Research sites. Niwot Ridge Long-Term Ecological Research Station has consistently measured data since 1953. Pretty much all of these sites are outside of the built-up environment. It is pretty well documented that the built-up environment creates a localized climate pattern called the Urban Heat Island.

#Comment Re: made: 2007-06-18 22:42:01.239231+00 by: Dan Lyke

Not making any commentary on who uses the data for what, but I went off looking for papers referencing the USHCN data set, and found this look at trends of USHCN measurements with an eye towards voting patterns that I thought was amusing.

And supporting Eric's claim that this data isn't used by serious climate researchers, there are quite a few papers out there pointing out that not only is this data skewed, that the main attempts to normalize it have skewed it even more.

#Comment Re: made: 2007-06-19 12:07:47.709856+00 by: ziffle

Sorry about the duplication - what does it mean when there is information relevant to a Flutterby discussion but no one remembers or knows its there? Where is the "Is there any info about this anywhere, already, on Flutterby button"?

#Comment Re: made: 2007-06-19 13:10:49.029435+00 by: Dan Lyke

No duplication, Ziffle, it's that I'd popped this link up in another window and thought it was fun enough to put in an entry, did so, and then figured out where I'd seen it.

So I was the one who did the duplication.