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2014-07-07 20:08:40.718661+00 by Dan Lyke 4 comments

GNOME (et al): Rotting In Threes:

In the rush for Linux to become ‘popular’ and ‘make it into the desktop market’, maybe there is an unintended consequence. Not only are Windows users moving to Linux, but Windows devs seem to be arriving as well, bringing their diseases with them – corporate ‘kill off the competition’ mentalities that don’t serve Linux, merely exploit it.

Yes. I have been working towards expunging Gnome from my systems, especially the freakin' keyring manager, because it's buggy and awful. I used to be a fan of GTK, back when it was a crisp lean control/widget library, but now...


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#Comment Re: made: 2014-07-07 23:51:29.372354+00 by: Jack William Bell

Might I humbly suggest Enlightenment as the Gnome replacement? E continues to hew closely to the view that the user experience is up to the user. And, since E17, it is both stable and uses less resources than some of its less flexible competition.

I'm using it right now. I do have some issues with non E-enabled software (quite often with apps written for GTK) and E still doesn't have good support for Wifi management, but overall I am happy with the experience. I just wish they had gone with something more standard for a scripting language. But then, I am leaning towards using Node.js for all my scripting needs; that way I can call my scripts remotely.

#Comment Re: made: 2014-07-08 03:21:39.455649+00 by: meuon

+1000 for Enlightenment. We tried a straight Debian/Wheezy system install today and had too many issues with it's X/Gnome config. Installed Bodhi.

You may have to play with Enlighenment, there are a lot of different ways to us use it. But all of them work.

#Comment Re: made: 2014-07-08 03:39:58.564426+00 by: Jack William Bell

You may have to play with Enlighenment, there are a lot of different ways to us use it. But all of them work.

Yeah. But that's kind of the point of E. Everything, and I mean everything, is configurable. E has themes (and Bodhi is really just a theme pack) but even the themes are mostly just a set of E conigurations.

And you have to love a window manager that provides specific menu items to restart and exit it instead of assuming you are there to stay. In fact, no assumptions about what the user wants at all. It can be little overwhelming at first.

#Comment Re: made: 2014-07-08 15:27:16.133341+00 by: Dan Lyke

I've been using Xubuntu/XFCE, which seems fine except when it pulls in things like Gnome components for WiFi control, or when something installs the freakin' keyring manager.

I'm wary of anything with too much GUI-based customizability that isn't through something like a ~/.emacs.d/init.el simply because I've been burned too many times by Gnome getting itself into some gawdawful state that it can't get itself out of short of rm -rf ~/.gnome*.

I think I'm going to go SSD on the netbook my Dad gave me, maybe I'll use that as the chance to try Enlightenment.