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2000-06-12 13:14:16+00 by Dan Lyke 6 comments

A few weeks back some weblogger, after complaining that neither Algore or Shrub was electable, asked "Why are all the third party U.S. presidential candidates wacko?" Well, because the all the U.S. presidential candidates are, which is why I have trouble taking American "journalism" seriously. But this goes to more mundane topics, in reading the new NETFUTURE I realized that while much of my latent Luddism remains, I'm falling further away from finding interesting tidbits in Steve Talbott's writing because he's the sort of person who acknowledges Mark Pesce's ideas at all, rather than just dismissing them as incoherent.

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#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:04+00 by: TC

Aw c'mon. unless I'm confusing my Mark Pesce peoples this is a shot at VRML, which I admit sucks buckey balls down storm drain culverts(no wait reverse that metaphore). I don't think you can totally dismiss the concept of VRML it's just a ghastly implementation of a pretty cool idea. Uh oh now I've done it. As for electable stooges welllll. may be Harry Browne _http://www.harrybrowne2000.org/_ or Dave Hollist _http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/constitution/_

#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:04+00 by: Dan Lyke

Nawww, it's not a shot at VRML, it's a shot at Mark Pesce. Yes, Mark was a guiding force in the creation of VRML, but since then he's been trying to leverage a victory in getting a community to adopt a format that most of them were using already (OpenInventor) into a Jaron Lanier like spot in the visionaries pantheon, except without the linguistic ability or critical business thinking skills. I've heard Mark speak a couple of times, and while he may have had some technical ability (I don't know, I followed VRML a little at the beginning and then realized it wouldn't do any of what I wanted) his grander ideas indicate that prognostication is not his long suit.

#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:04+00 by: TC

Ahhhh. I see....wait another dotcom idea coming... YES! www.markpesce-deprograming.com[Wiki] whatdoyathink? I bet we could hire Moony deprogrammers cheap.

#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:04+00 by: baylink

Do we really think Harry Browse is inelectable? (As opposed to ineluctable; that's a conversation I don't want to get into...) Oh, and the common spelling is "Moonie". Just don't call the Cult Awareness Network.

#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:05+00 by: webwide

reading only a few quotes from Pesce was all I could take! He sounded like he was suggesting actually *raising/training* children by using VR.....I'm picturing kids who won't know what grass feels like under bare feet..........

#Comment made: 2002-02-21 05:30:05+00 by: Dan Lyke

Pesce has forgotten that we're non-virtual entities, and that virtual environments are interesting tools and not goals in and of themselves. Maybe some people wanna live in a world that flickers a lot, stops to swap occasionally, and needs to be rebooted regularly, but not me.