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Shade structures, anyone?

2002-09-12 18:26:25+00 by Dan Lyke 10 comments

So if, in two months when we make the decision, we plan on going back to Burning Man, we're going to do it differently. Anyone want the bits to make two Geometry Camp shade structures? Basically a boatload of PVC pipe, one in 2" and one in 1.75", both schedule 40, a few parachutes, and a bunch of rebar.

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#Comment made: 2002-09-13 01:30:58+00 by: meuon

Not me.. although they are very neat structures.. I've even thight of making a really really big one on the side of the VB.. make a great shop structure and I know where I can get really strong aluminum tubes cheap.

But... You may want to keep your PVC and 'chutes for future use.

#Comment made: 2002-09-15 15:34:02+00 by: jim hammer

parachutes look cool, but aren't waterproof and may not provide very deep shade. I've used some, but this year we used silver tarps over a half cylinder of pvc arches, and the tarps really kick ass. it was much cooler under the tarps than under a piece of coated fabric we used to bridge a gap in the covering, and our stuff stayed dry during the rain. Our neighbors were forced to worship us because we had the best shade (and let them use it). I guess your comment implies that you are switching to something else also?

#Comment made: 2002-09-15 19:53:30+00 by: Dan Lyke

The parachutes have always been fine for the amount of water we get up there, even in 2000, but yeah, they don't always provide really deep shade. And this year our side management wasn't up to par.

We're talking about next year already (a month and a half earlier than I wanted to), and I think we've got two potential directions to go: One is becoming involved with a large construction project, with sides that'd attenuate sound and create a really special space, and the other to just build a pedal powered vehicle that has fold-down seats and built in shade, and enough cargo capacity for a day's worth of supplies. Put a cache tent by the car, and just pull down the sides of the shade and crash wherever we happen to have the pedal monstrosity, going back to the car for the occasional resupply.

#Comment made: 2002-09-16 01:08:56+00 by: meuon

Hmm.. I had not considered the beneficial effects of a small but sound insulated enclosure. Sonex is great stuff, but it is expensive. It works best applied to a double wall (air gap) design that works well, and can be plywood or sheetrock, but you have to be careful that the outside wall does not touch the inside wall, and it takes a lot of expensive material. Lead lined sheetrock works great and SoundProofing101.com has some other neat ideas, but I am not sure what would be practical to haul to Black Rock City and set up.

#Comment made: 2002-09-16 02:23:41+00 by: Dan Lyke

I've been thinking about sheets of 4'x8' 2" styrofoam laminated with masonite and mylar. put a layer of cardboard on the inside wall, something to add stiffness that isn't going to reflect a lot of sound, and you should have one hell of a noise absorption material. Not as good as Sonex at absorbing internal noise, but would probably keep out a good portion of everything but a nearby 120dB rave camp. There'd be some diffraction over the top if you just went with a cloth roof, but back in the 'burbs somewhere and it'd be the quietest space within 5 miles.

Engineering wise I still have to figure out a strong light frame to put it on, and I'd have to play with architecture to build something for airflow, but if I go the direction of a chill space I was thinking a 12 or so sided yurt like structure with walls of that.

But of course once that's done the real problem is building the attractive space. Charlene and I hung out in a number of gorgeous well decorated places with great sound with one or two other people.

This is why some piece of roving art is more attractive right now.

#Comment made: 2002-09-16 04:17:31+00 by: meuon [edit history]

The social aspects of your roving camp is a real positive. Consider having some kind of a 'resting, do not disturb' sign to put out. I would not have gotten so close to and invaded his space, if they had had one. This guy was near the Sound Goddess for a while.

#Comment made: 2002-09-16 18:34:18+00 by: Dan Lyke

Well, my current thought, and I think Charlene agrees on some of the aesthetics, is to go towards the late 1800s horse drawn carriage motif, with a healthy dose of steampunk. Build some plywood and dowel based wheels which incorporate mountain bike rims to hold a tire, have the running boards, and have a roof over it somewhat like the one on this English Inn page, with sides that can be strapped down to keep the dust out. Huh, just got to thinking that my beard could go well with certain suits from just a bit earlier than that era...

Bears some thinking. Wonder how to adapt it into variuos themes.

#Comment made: 2002-09-17 23:10:51+00 by: Mark Kraft

What camp are you going to be at next year? I've been running LiveJournal camp for the past two years, and we have grown a lot (we had about 35 people this year) and have consistantly been given good placement and plenty of room near Center Camp and the Esplanade. Over time, several people have joined the camp who aren't a part of LiveJournal, but are very cool, (such as the Yahoo Education Project) so next year we are going to change the camp's name to Writer's Block and actively encourage others to join, such as writers, webloggers, online community people, etc. This year, we had an army surplus GP medium tent that was more than big enough to shelter everyone in our camp with very complete shade, though we need to do a few modifications so it's easier to elevate the sides of the tend and get more of a breeze. We are also hoping to have an art car next year -- some sort of small vehicle (golf cart, dirt buggy, etc.) which we would transport on a trailer that we bought this year. The trailer would have chairs and support bars added to it, allowing it to transport about 8 people. Not sure exactly how we will decorate it, but I'm thinking of designing an outer shell that makes the whole thing look like a giant dustbuster...

#Comment made: 2002-09-18 17:33:22+00 by: Dan Lyke

After this year's experience with Firetown, as much as I love the Firetown[Wiki] folks, the idea of going back to the loosely joined agglomeration somewhere back in the burbs is very appealing. Probably back with the Camp Vulgarity crowd again.

On vehicles, the Flutterbarge fell apart at the last minute this year, but Todd's been playing with similar concepts.

#Comment made: 2002-09-20 00:30:01+00 by: meuon [edit history]

Burbs. I can visit FireTown... and many many other towns :)