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IQ correlated to 2000 election

2004-05-06 18:08:39.732367+00 by Dan Lyke 10 comments

Snitched from Metafilter: Average IQ by state and how they voted in 2000:

Note to Republicans: This chart is not as bad as it looks. The correlation of electoral votes to IQ is a loose one. There are many variable that are obviously not included. Connecticut, for example, probably has a significantly higher rating now that George Bush lives in Texas.

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#Comment Re: made: 2004-05-07 11:45:51.133203+00 by: ziffle

Funny - that chart resembles a chart of the most highly taxed states - is there a correlation?

I wonder about the methodology they used to determine IQ?

Ziffle in untaxed Mayberry

#Comment Re: made: 2004-05-07 15:14:50.323654+00 by: Dan Lyke

Yesterday they said it was a book called Wealth of Nations[Wiki], which looks interesting (I remember a sound-bite calling it The Bell Curve[Wiki] of international politics), but I didn't order it 'cause it seemed pricey. Today they have a correction saying that book doesn't have IQ by state in it.

For all I know it could be just made up.

But it also looks like it's inversely correlated to Federal spending by state for each tax dollar sent to Washington, with most of the "welfare queen" states voting Republican.

#Comment Re: made: 2004-05-14 21:36:58.448487+00 by: ziffle

A lengthy and intelligent discussion of the HOAX that this is: http://www.isteve.com/Web_Exclusives_Archive-May2004.htm

#Comment Re: made: 2004-05-15 02:36:39.531472+00 by: Diane Reese

Whether or not it's a hoax, ziffle, I personally don't put any stock in anything that comes from the pen of the movie critic for the American Conservative. Sheesh, talk about a non-objective "reporter", good grief... Call me prejudiced if you like, but spoutings like those on iSteve.com make me want to hurl. What a pretentious jerk.

If you want to debunk the hoax, it's worth trying to find a neutral source, rather than a clearly biased one. I have not yet found one, but I believe one will surface before long. (I assumed it was a hoax also, but I would have liked to believe it. And it sure was startling to think that the average IQ in Mississippi might be 85...)

I'd ask if Steve Sailer is from Mississippi, but that might cause a flame-fest or a Diane-roast or something... ;-)

#Comment Re: made: 2004-05-15 14:40:22.689001+00 by: ziffle

woa- I did not even notice who or what he was, just that the facts are that its all a hoax.

Roast Dianne? What wine goes with that? <g>


#Comment Re: made: 2004-05-15 21:01:58.195845+00 by: Shawn

Yeah, I didn't go so far as to find out exactly who this guy was, but he certainly lost cred with me when he started spouting about how it's not possible for a women to beat up men "in a fair fight". And what's with constantly repeating the background in every update?

#Comment Re: made: 2004-05-15 22:46:09.449336+00 by: Larry Burton

Regardless of Steve Sailer's background he appears to have it right on this one issue. He's given valid arguments and presented valid evidence that the story is a hoax. It may be the only thing in his life he's ever had right but still he seems to have it right.

#Comment Re: made: 2004-05-16 17:28:27.341516+00 by: Shawn

...and when I say "cred", I mean as in Street Cred - not credibility on this particular issue.

His arguments seem plausible, but then I didn't really buy the initial claim either. It was entertaining. That's about it.

#Comment Re: made: 2004-05-16 19:07:25.129581+00 by: Dan Lyke

Hmmm... Interesting set of numbers that makes me want to look further, I need to drop some of those federal spending per capita and federal taxes per capita and compare some of that to income by state.

#Comment Re: made: 2004-05-17 17:33:24.782626+00 by: Dan Lyke

Hmmmm... The American Assembler, "news with a memory", seems to have disappeared the page.

No reason to believe this any more than any other source, but here's a claimed IQ by state as extrapolated from the National Assessment of Educational Progress math and reading test scores, might be a good place to start looking for more data.