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"partial birth" abortion ban unconstitutional

2004-06-01 18:47:11.023576+00 by Dan Lyke 2 comments

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#Comment Re: made: 2004-06-02 13:13:08.148632+00 by: polly

i am an advocate for choice, however, i've never understood or even heard of anyone needing the partial birth due to medical reasons. if the baby is in the stage of pregnancy where the baby could survive outside the womb, then is every effort made to save the baby? you never hear anything from that point of view. i'm pro choice, but, i'm also pro baby. if you get pregnant and don't want it, put it up for adoption. there are ways of hiding a pregnancy and having a baby without everyone knowing...good grief! it's been done for MANY years.

if you don't want to get pregnant, then use birth control! no excuse, i've got a nephew who now has 3 babies, he can't pay for any of them, he married the first mother when she got pregnant, bad decision, then they got divorced, he got his off again/on again girlfriend pregnant, twice...it's a major mess. he's a bigger mess and a worthless deadbeat dad. he claims he used condoms, i can't tell you how many times i've told him even the clear stuff will get you pregnant. she can't use birth control pills because they make her sick. i don't think she's explored or let her doctor figure out what works. then, if she absolutely can't use birth control, then she better get fixed. she can't afford one baby much less two! so, here are three babies who were lucky that their moms did not agree with abortion, but they ended with with a deadbeat dad who skipped to kansas to avoid the hassle. i really thought this world was smarter than this. i am constantly amazed at how stupid these kids can be or how they avoid responsiblity.

i think bush is an idiot and could not believe that he thought he could get away with messing around with women's rights regarding choice. the government cannot tell us (women) what to do with our bodies. if that is the case, then government needs to step in and stop these husbands/live in boyfriends from drinking...it takes away from "family values", creates potentially abusive environments for the wife/girlfriend/family...and the thought goes on.

#Comment Re: made: 2004-06-02 15:37:43.719478+00 by: Dan Lyke

I put "partial birth" in quotes because before the propagandists started using the term it was called "D&X" or "dilation and extraction". As I understand it (and, alas, I don't have time this morning to go read the decision), the specific issue which struck down the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 is that there were errors in the "findings of fact" on which the bill was based, and that the bill always put the life of the foetus over the health of the mother, even when the foetus was not viable outside of the womb.

Since the procedure was already not approved as "elective" in all states, essentially, it left doctors having to perform hysterotomies (like a caesarian), a much more risky and expensive operation, often requiring more skill or equipment than rural area doctors had on hand, to prevent debilitating injury to the mother.