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"In Jesus Name I hate you!"

2005-12-31 20:22:49.190629+00 by ziffle 9 comments

Trading Spouses finds the Dark Side -


The movie will start playing for you; the difficult part for me is feeling like - are people shocked at this woman? I have gotten used to it around here -

This is why Christians should not be allowed to vote.


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#Comment Re: made: 2005-12-31 22:21:38.60731+00 by: crasch

I'm no fan of Christianity, but I don't think that it's fair to judge Christians by that woman's behavior. I strongly suspect that she's mentally ill. I would wager that she would behave no less repugnantly were she an atheist -- the only difference would be the ideology plugged into her brain.

#Comment Re: made: 2006-01-01 14:15:51.711638+00 by: Diane Reese

Yes, it's shocking. Ziffle, if you've gotten used to people like that in your area, I strongly recommend you leave where you are and move to somewhere where it's strange and unusual behavior. At least in many places, her behavior would be properly seen as signs of mental illness in need of help, as crasch suggests, not as "oh well, another slightly overzealous believer".

Honestly, it's frightening.

#Comment Re: made: 2006-01-02 17:02:59.426428+00 by: Dan Lyke

I haven't seen the clip, my Mac doesn't like WMFs as plug-ins and I haven't booted the Windows box recently (and given that there are WMF exploits in the wild, and no patch for 'em, I'm not in a hurry to do so).

However... I assume that this is a video of someone going off and using a lot of Christianity references in their tirades. Part of why I live in the Bay Area is... ya know those raving preachers down on Market Street in San Francisco, with their "you sodomites are going to hell" signs? Yeah, the reason I live in the Bay Area is that there are only two or three of them, and we look askance at them. In Chattanooga, those folks are elevated to run large churches.

I think a large part of Ziffle's reaction is that he's coming from a place where such behavior occurs more often and has less cultural pushback. And I'd say "move", but we're getting kinda crowded here, and I'd like to see those Bay Area attitudes spread a little geographically.

#Comment Re: made: 2006-01-03 14:48:50.940967+00 by: topspin

I don't watch "Trading Spouses" [hell, I don't have cable] but sending that particular woman out into the "real world" is a seriously bad idea which probably made for pretty good TV ratings or at least garnered a little hype for the show.

It wouldn't have taken 10 minutes with this woman for the producers to know she was gonna need 50-100mg of long-acting Haldol if taken too far from her normal environment. Sadly, the family and the producers chose money over the emotional well-being of the woman, and more importantly, the young kids involved. Now, what do they have: $50k for the family, whatever cash the producers get for the ratings and the horrors a pre-teen kid and her older siblings must have for watching their Mom meltdown..... oh yeah, probably not for the first time nor the last, but on friggin' national TV and the WWW.

I'll be the first to tell you we have an abundance of crazy Christians around here and that some social constrictions and concessions exist when one lives here, but this wasn't about that at all. It was about exposing someone emotionally ill-prepared and mentally unstable to a hostile environment and filming the carnage.

Perhaps next season someone will develop a pilot that takes the program that exposes young petty criminals to hardened prison cons one step further by dumping the young'uns in cells with the lifers for a week and filming the fear, degradation, sodomy, and aftermath----- "Scarred Straight"

Some people are sick, yes, but TV like this poisons the culture by exploiting those who are ill and vulnerable.

#Comment Re: made: 2006-01-03 20:52:31.919355+00 by: Larry Burton

I spent 47 years in Chattanooga and I'm probably considered a mainstream to fundamentalist Christian. This woman's behavior is just plain bizzare. I have to agree with most of what Topspin says, though. I would also wonder how many of the readers here would react upon returning home from time spent with a family of snake handlers.

#Comment Re: made: 2006-01-04 03:15:51.599043+00 by: Diane Reese [edit history]

I would also wonder how many of the readers here would react upon returning home from time spent with a family of snake handlers.

First off, I would have been prepared, by virtue of the nature of "reality TV", for the producers to have planned to stick me somewhere where I'd be "challenged", not somewhere where I'd feel comfy and fit right in. Upon arriving home, I would tell my family that those other folks were really weird people and their beliefs were really bizarre to me, and honestly, I'd probably pass some judgement on them and maybe even make fun of them. But I wouldn't become deranged and refuse to grant any value to anything associated with them. Then again, I'm not mentally unstable.

TV like this poisons the culture by exploiting those who are ill and vulnerable.

TV in general tends to poison the culture these days, in more ways than are worth counting.

Note that in the end, the woman decided to take the money after all.

#Comment Re: made: 2006-01-04 11:12:24.037632+00 by: Larry Burton

Yeah, the fact that she took the money makes me wonder how much of her actions were part of a script.

#Comment Re: made: 2006-01-04 13:58:15.313818+00 by: topspin

The possibility it was scripted is actually comforting because of the kids since stuff like this will make their life hell for awhile.... which is forever for a young'un, ya know.

#Comment Re: made: 2006-01-05 15:21:36.360994+00 by: ziffle [edit history]

Yesterday I was collecting rent from a woman and she was going on about how the devil was trying to make her do this and that and how she was strongly resisting. She was speaking in all sincerity - and hoping for me to chime in with agreeing utturences... which I could not do.

I thought about this thread and wondered if you'all would not say she was nuts!

I think she is, but she is nice and pays on time so I took her money and will wait till next month to wonder about it again. And thats how we go on ignoring this fruitcake world called Christianity (or Islam etc of course)

Ziffle of Mayberry