Flutterby™! :

As I look through the IndyMedia Seattle stuff I'm struck that there are pages and pages abourt where to draw the line with polic conduct, and lots of "rah rah, we're organizing" stuff, but I'm having to go pretty far back and I still have yet to find anything about the issues. Yes, the police were out of line, but without goals and guiding principles a group of people is just a mob. There seems to be much more pleasure in the process than any accomplishment that may or may not have occurred as a result of the protests. And yes, if you read deeper even these guys admit that the real meetings didn't take place where the action was, but over at UW.