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Some Hope

2018-01-03 21:18:34.834603+00 by Dan Lyke 5 comments

Brent Simmons: 2018: Some Hope, a call to rebuild the blogosphere and social web that we once had. I'm skeptical that the new thing can be built on the web. I think JavaScript and Google have killed it.

The unruly web — unregulated and uncontrolled — is, perhaps paradoxically, the easiest place to limit hate. Not because we can stop people from publishing, but because we don’t have to live by Dorsey’s and Zuckerberg’s rules and designs.

I remember when TC used referrer back-linking to make a Flutterby entry the second Google result for French Military Victories, and the idiocy and trolls that descended on the comment thread there. It's not just that we're at the whim of Twitter and Facebook's algorithms of what to amplify, but Google's too. And in integrating the mainstream media, we've amplified trolling: Unlike the old days of Usenet, with tools for filtering and killfiling, we have to reinvent the wheel for every place we publish or read.

Some of the new concepts for commenting with backlinks, as we used to do when we all read each other anyway, need a good aggregator, and I'm not sure HTTP is the right protocol to do that under. I've been pondering the tuits to do such a thing for ipfs or dat or something else that's distributed, that uses simple public keys for identity, and that means that it's likely that we have collective back-ups of family photographs and such.

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#Comment Re: Some Hope made: 2018-01-04 13:29:07.77595+00 by: DaveP

One of the things I've been wondering is whether it's possible to have a web without JavaScript. My site always worked without it, and a few others, but all the big toxic services fail utterly if you shut off JS. Maybe that's an answer of sorts, or maybe it's just a symptom. Not sure.

#Comment Re: Some Hope made: 2018-01-04 19:51:08.196103+00 by: Dan Lyke

I have long asserted that JavaScript killed the web. Flutterby, of course, works without it.

We may end up with separate machines for browsing...

#Comment Re: Some Hope made: 2018-01-05 01:43:32.217773+00 by: brennen

I just hopped over to this entry from my feedreader, so there may be a better thread here, but this seems like a good place to mention that I've been playing with scuttlebutt today (I'm not entirely sure this isn't a place I heard about it):


It's promising, so far.

#Comment Re: Some Hope made: 2018-01-05 05:43:07.668724+00 by: Dan Lyke

I was excited about it, except I was using Patchwork as a client and it was chewing up gigabytes of memory, which didn't do too well on my laptop. I should revisit that, and see if there's a lower memory consumption client.

#Comment Re: Some Hope made: 2018-01-05 23:35:27.787231+00 by: Dan Lyke

On the allure of Quora and plans for a new brainwagon future.

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