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The brown shirts are rising

2018-10-24 15:15:59.557605+00 by Dan Lyke 15 comments

Secret Service intercepts ‘potential explosive devices’ sent to Obama, Clinton, and the Time Warner Center where CNN offices are, a day after a bomb was sent to George Soros' home.

Edit: RT Kaitlan Collins @kaitlancollins:

The package with an explosive device sent to CNN’s NY offices was addressed to former CIA Director John Brennan, CNN has learned. Brennan doesn't work for CNN. He's a contributor for MSNBC.

Edit 2: RT NPR @NPR

The total of four refers to:
- 1 addressed to Hillary Clinton
- 1 to former President Barack Obama
- 1 to the building that houses CNN's office in New York City
- 1 to Wasserman Schultz, former chairwoman of the DNC

Edit 3: San Diego Tribune office, Kamala Harris's office evacuated because of suspicious packages. That one was a false alarm.

Edit 4: Emily G ‏@EmilyGorcenski:

As the US wakes up to news that the homes/offices of two former presidents have had bombs sent to them, let’s take have a refresher on who is actually committing domestic terror:

Edit 5: RT The Associated Press @AP Turns out Cuomo was misinformed. UPDATES: Suspicious Package Sent To Cuomo's Office Actually Just Info On Proud Boys

BREAKING: New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo says his Manhattan office also received a suspicious device.

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#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-24 17:10:58.089669+00 by: Dan Lyke

RT Bobby Lewis @revrrlewis

the 41 abortion clinics bombed by right-wing extremists since 1977 could not be reached for comment

Quoting Will Sommer @willsommer

Limbaugh's proof that Democrats are behind the bombs: "Republicans just don't do this kind of thing."

#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-24 17:35:28.860952+00 by: TheSHAD0W

http://archive.is/7FqdI - NBC article, includes pics of "device". Not disrupted, nothing that indicates it had to be disarmed, almost certainly fake.

#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-24 20:11:16.510451+00 by: Dan Lyke

This is the Cuomo one? That link doesn't work, but it sounds like Cuomo was misinformed: UPDATES: Suspicious Package Sent To Cuomo's Office Actually Just Info On Proud Boys

#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-24 20:25:05.586889+00 by: Dan Lyke

Pictures of the CNN one here, looks like a pipe bomb: https://www.nbcnewyork.com/new...suspicious-device-498420761.html

#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-24 22:02:50.776217+00 by: Dan Lyke

RT 💀🎃Low Turnout Model 🎃💀 @MaxTemkin

It sounds pretty crazy if you say it like this: "today there was an assassination attempt on two former presidents and a former secretary of state"

#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-24 22:04:42.0142+00 by: Dan Lyke

https://www.washingtonpost.com...ntons-home-new-york-city-suburb/ :

Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) -- another person who exchanged criticism with the president -- said she was told by police her “office was the target of a suspicious package" that was intercepted and then referred to the FBI. It was unclear if the package contained an explosive device, and it was not among the packages listed by the FBI in a statement regarding the investigation.

#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-25 14:29:37.517739+00 by: TheSHAD0W

> Pictures of the CNN one here, looks like a pipe bomb:

The xray looks scary to the average guy on the street. To me it's laughable. That red wire from the photo looked like THHN for wiring houses; the xray confirms it. It's coiled up inside the package to deliberately look interesting on xray. That's not what detonators look like.

#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-25 15:33:31.97781+00 by: Dan Lyke

Back when I was a kid... I made igniters for black powder bombs by coiling single strands from stranded wire. I'd imagine that on X-rays they'd look a lot like that. I probably didn't use THHN as my dad had brought home a mumbledy thousand foot spool of something that was probably 18 or 20 ga that got used for everything from running point-to-point telephone lines to the neighbor kid's house (we used a 9V battery in series with the carbon mics) and a 50' or so antenna out to the barn for a crystal set AM receiver.

(Though my containers were either Kraft paper rolled tubes, or wood blocks with holes drilled in 'em. They made decent small craters, would probably easily take off a limb or do more damage if detonated in proximity to a body (I kinda stopped when I was using a tractor as a backstop, also using the battery as the source of the ignition current, and heard some shrapnel hit the building behind me and realized that I'd taken the "blow shit up" direction as far as I needed to.)

But the point isn't really whether or not these were meant to blow up: Terrorism is about disruption, and they clearly accomplished that.

I'd also note that if I were working in a mailroom at a place that had security concerns, I'd be calling in the bomb squad for anything that looked remotely off. There's no reason to assume from the outside that this wasn't intended to cause injury, and the fact that we're looking at X-rays and saying "well, the X-ray doesn't look very hazardous" tells you pretty much all you need to know about the level of screening necessary.

So, yeah, whatever person put this together probably didn't intend to kill people, just to scare them. That still qualifies as assault.

#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-25 15:35:57.687267+00 by: Dan Lyke

Suspected explosives sent to Biden, De Niro as investigation into pipe bombs expands to 10 packages.

#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-25 15:46:28.449781+00 by: TheSHAD0W

> coiling single strands from stranded wire

That wasn't single strands, that was the whole wire, 14 or 12 gauge. Probably solid too, though might've been stranded. You can see how heavy it is in the xray. You'd need ten thousand amperes to turn that into a detonator. :-)

And yeah, just because the bombs were fake doesn't excuse sending them.

#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-26 02:36:59.678088+00 by: meuon

It was is plausible scare.. and I'm glad that none have gone off. yet.

#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-26 02:51:08.886137+00 by: TheSHAD0W

More info: I take it back about the wire being 12-14 gauge, because the devices were a *lot* smaller than you'd originally think. M80-sized. I didn't realize it because I didn't compare the size of the devices/envelopes with the size of the stamps on them. Still don't think there was enough juice in the setup to cause a detonation, and there are indications the "timers" had no way of setting them off anyway.

#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-26 16:03:51.781823+00 by: Dan Lyke

A Twitter user has a bunch of pictures that seem to match up with the aerial video of the van of the suspect arrested in Florida.

#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-26 16:04:46.305536+00 by: Dan Lyke

And, yeah, I think these are "damage your limbs" kinds of bombs. Or maybe just decoys meant to scare people.

#Comment Re: The brown shirts are rising made: 2018-10-27 02:14:51.872253+00 by: Dan Lyke

Another Twitter user with before the arrest picture of the van https://mobile.twitter.com/les...vanel/status/1055851424129736705

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