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Erickson & Massihi

2020-04-28 20:38:05.51062+00 by Dan Lyke 3 comments

Because that video of two doc-in-the-box urgent care physicians from Bakersfield trying to create more business for themselves is making the rounds (and what is it about Kern County, man?) and I need to be able to find these again:

Shoddy statistics and false claims: Dr. Erickson dangerously misled the public on coronavirus

ACEP-AAEM Joint Statement on Physician Misinformation:

The American College of Emergency Physicians (ACEP) and the American Academy of Emergency Medicine (AAEM) jointly and emphatically condemn the recent opinions released by Dr. Daniel Erickson and Dr. Artin Massihi. These reckless and untested musings do not speak for medical societies and are inconsistent with current science and epidemiology regarding COVID-19. As owners of local urgent care clinics, it appears these two individuals are releasing biased, non-peer reviewed data to advance their personal financial interests without regard for the public’s health.

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#Comment Re: Erickson & Massihi made: 2020-04-29 09:14:45.502244+00 by: TheSHAD0W

> two doc-in-the-box urgent care physicians from Bakersfield trying to create more business for themselves

Nice ad hominem attack there.

The statistics given are valid, but the math and framing may be wrong. With a long incubation period people who are positive for COVID antibodies may not have gotten over the virus yet and it's unknown for how many this is true or whether they'll have symptoms later. If there's a large population out there incubating the virus then it'd be valuable to keep quarantine measures fairly tight for now as we'd be about to experience a wave of illness.

Then again we keep seeing info that people who've had COVID aren't immune to being reinfected. If this is true, then we need to drop a lot of the quarantine measures because the game is lost and it'd be best to keep the economy running as well as possible even as the vulnerable all die off.

Having hospitals so swamped with patients that people die from neglect would be bad. Having hospitals well underutilized while the economy falls apart would also be bad, and we're seeing some of the latter. Striking that balance is really hard.

#Comment Re: Erickson & Massihi made: 2020-04-29 14:01:37.941807+00 by: markd

> Then again we keep seeing info that people who've had COVID aren't immune to being reinfected.

I've been seeing "we don't have evidence that infection confers immunity" (or evidence the other way - we just Don't Know), but not a definitive (other than the immunocompromised) that people are not immune and are definitely being reinfected.

#Comment Re: Erickson & Massihi made: 2020-04-29 22:37:37.55318+00 by: TheSHAD0W

Yup. Which is why I qualified the statement. SK recently said that "reinfection" was just "viral fragments" triggering a false positive. Hopefully that's true.

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