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HTML 2 was a mistake

2023-10-23 18:55:02.778456+02 by Dan Lyke 6 comments

HTML 2 was a mistake. All subsequent HTML-adjacent technologies likewise.

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#Comment Re: HTML 2 was a mistake made: 2023-10-23 23:25:59.432566+02 by: spc476

I don't know about that … HTML 1 was pretty sparse.

#Comment Re: HTML 2 was a mistake made: 2023-10-24 00:00:24.759289+02 by: Dan Lyke

Yeah, if we could have had tables, but use them for table-ish things (maybe with float="..."), I'd have been okay with that.

#Comment Re: HTML 2 was a mistake made: 2023-10-24 03:47:01.333914+02 by: spc476

I find HTML 4 and CSS to be good (and I don't use tables at all for layout). I think I could get by with HTML 4.01 strict if it weren't for one or two problematic entries I should probably rethink.

#Comment Re: HTML 2 was a mistake made: 2023-10-24 14:28:01.38254+02 by: brainopener

I feel obligated to point out Project Gemini: https://geminiprotocol.net

#Comment Re: HTML 2 was a mistake made: 2023-10-24 22:11:21.780634+02 by: spc476 [edit history]

And I feel obligated to point out that I wrote the first Gemini server, before the creator of the protocol wrote a server himself (source code).

But in general, I've found the Gemini document format too limiting for my own tastes.

#Comment Re: HTML 2 was a mistake made: 2023-10-25 22:36:57.601407+02 by: Dan Lyke

Yeah, I use this as a place to store my history, and without http(s) urls that kinda gets limiting.

But maybe I just need to suck up that those'll be external links somehow...

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