Buckmaster vs OpenAI
2026-09-08 21:32:25.31017+02 by
Dan Lyke
2 comments
Tristan Buckmaster has released a statement on his work and some
claims by OpenAI, that might have been influenced by his own use of their tools. It's
unclear, but the accusations of strong-arming are kinda frightening, and people should
consider this when having conversations with hosted LLM models.
I said that if OpenAI released its result in the way proposed I would go
public with what happened. The reply was, Why would you ruin your career?
I replied that I am an academic, and asked why he thought going public would
ruin my career. The reply was, If you dont want me to be nice, then I
dont
have to be nice.
Via
danmcquillan
@danmcquillan@kolektiva.social who characterized this as "AI maths meets mafia".
Tech Crunch: OpenAI fought dirty on career-making math
problem, says NYU mathematician.
Buckmaster also raised concerns that, because he used Codex extensively in
assembling the project, information from his work could have informed OpenAIs own efforts
to solve the problem. OpenAI reserves the right to train models on
Codex interactions, although users are able to opt-out. If the OpenAI team used a
model trained on Buckmasters own Codex interactions, its plausible that it could have
regurgitated his work when faced with a similar problem.
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#Comment Re: made: 2026-09-10 22:53:58.432318+02 by:
Dan Lyke
Andreas Thom
@andreasthom@mathstodon.xyz has a thread about some additional interactions with
OpenAI.
#Comment Re: made: 2026-09-15 00:47:03.806959+02 by:
Dan Lyke
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Two completely unrelated items today that I'm sure have absolutely nothing to do with each
other, why would you even think that?
First: Thomas Kahle
@tomkalei@mathe.social
Talking to different mathematicians working with #ChatGPT in the last months,
we noticed
two things that were true for all of us:
1. it's basically impossible to run out of tokens. Every time we approached
the limits we got free/automatic usage resets and could keep going.
2. We all got access to GPT-6 astra on the first day, when influencers and
podcasters still reported of some staggered release and that they did not have it.
Given everything that happened last week, the picture looks very much like
#OpenAI knowing exactly who is a mathematician and making sure they use their system as
much as possible.
Second: 404 Media: Inside ÃÂÃÂProject LilyÃÂÃÂ: The Humans Reading Your
ChatGPT
Chats
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