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Presidential hopefuls arrested

2004-10-09 16:54:25.834786+00 by Dan Lyke 5 comments

I ended up in the car yesterday during the latest presidential "debate". Ow, that was painful. Doesn't either side care about gaining votes, or are both of 'em just digging themselves in hard with their entrenched base? At any rate, it's good to know that some presidential hopefuls who'd actually make a difference tried to make it, but, alas, Michael Badnarik (Libertarian) and David Cobb (Green Party) were arrested, presumably while trying to enter the debate hall. Badnarik was trying to serve papers complaining that the CPD and Arizona State University had made substantial illegal campaign contributions to the Republican and Democrat parties.

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#Comment Re: how about colin powell for prez? made: 2004-10-09 20:24:31.98575+00 by: polly

interesting that you mention this, we (teachers at work) were discussing colin powell and wondering what party HE is in. we couldn't decide if he was democrat or republican, no one could actually remember if he ever mentioned it. then someone said he was independent. we've been reading a lot of articles with our students about colin powell (positive influence for african american children). what i have gathered makes me think that he would be a great candidate for president. i believe that i would have to give him serious consideration.

by the way, kerry is the lessor of 2 evils. i caught the part of the prez debates where kerry accused bush of back handed drafting re: the guard, regular military not being allowed to get out when they are supposed to, and so on...kerry is so right about those statements. my daughter was going to be sent back to iraq for the third time, not good, she was terrified, had to get an attorney so she could get out. she had put in 4.5 years and was ready to resign. it was a big ordeal before the air force finally let her go, it was honorable. my concern is that we are sending guard units over because regular military is getting very short handed, why? because they are getting killed over there, daily! special ops IS over there and it isn't helping. all the experienced guys are retired and hiding or they've been killed. so it's the blind/inexperienced leading the blind/inexperienced. bush is killing our military and my question is why, for what purpose NOW?

#Comment Re: made: 2004-10-09 21:11:09.150942+00 by: Diane Reese

Powell "came out as a Republican" in the mid-'90s, according to this highly-detailed article on him from the wikipedia. As noted in the article, he has been respected by both major parties for various military actions, although there is also some controversy regarding Viet Nam and Iran-Contra, as you'll see in the article.

#Comment Re: made: 2004-10-09 21:26:33.585001+00 by: polly

thank you, diane, i read the article. colin powell is a multi-fauceted individual worth keeping an eye on for future possibilites, don't you think? even considering the controversial positions that he found himself in, i believe he still came out strong as ever.

well, got a 10 month old grandson insisting that he gets my UNdivided attention, i will comment some more on this. thanks.

#Comment Re: made: 2004-10-11 18:03:10.002447+00 by: mvandewettering

I view Colin Powell with the same sense of disappointment that I feel when I look at Condoleeza Rice. Both are people of considerable intelligence and thoughtfulness who have sold their souls and respectability to get a piece of the pie. Powell has faithfully towed the Republican Party line over the Iraq conflict, repeating the lies of his puppet masters in what I can only guess is an attempt to further his own career. Unfortunately, destroying your own credibility probably doesn't help to advance your career. Still, he keeps gulping the Koolaid, repeatedly supporting the administrations fabrications and justifications for the war in Iraq. And who knows? Those prevarications may still win someone the presidency.

#Comment Re: PNAC made: 2004-10-14 20:16:40.437703+00 by: jeff [edit history]

I'm amazed at the numbers of extremely intelligent people who are uniformed about the true underlying forces shaping American foreign policy (and ultimately, the American way of life). Do a google search on "pnac".

There is a collection of very relevant reference links here:


George W. Bush, as president, is solidly entrenched as the "enforcer" for PNAC. And the more you learn about PNAC, its aims and goals, the more you'll become frightened that the American way of life that we were all raised on is on its way to the history books. The "War on Terror" is quickly becoming a national suicidal self-fulfilling prophecy, and a self-serving lexicon for the power-elite. Additionally, the "microcosm of Israel" is quickly becoming the manifest macrocosm in America.