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Skeptical about justice from this dude

2018-11-20 17:24:03.119714+00 by Dan Lyke 5 comments

Disgraced former Judge Lance Mason accused of fatally stabbing estranged wife in Shaker Heights, sources say

Back in 2014 he punched his wife 14 times and slammed her head against the dashboard of his car 5 times. There were many important people who vouched for wife-beater and former judge Lance Mason, and when he was sentenced to 2 years (of which he served 9 months) the prosecutor diminished his crimes

"I think this would be an example of sometimes how good people make bad decisions or do bad things," said prosecutor Maggie Troyer.

Dude was clearly prepared for bad things: When police searched his home after that initial attack the Cleveland judge accused of beating wife had 2,500 rounds of ammunition, semi-automatic rifles, sword and smoke grenades in home.

Domestic violence is not a one-time thing.

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#Comment Re: Skeptical about justice from this dude made: 2018-11-21 10:33:35.635499+00 by: DaveP [edit history]

It sounds like you think 2500 rounds of ammunition is a lot. That sounds more like standard hobbyist levels to me, rather than any sort of concerted preparation. Almost anyone who shoots has a .22. And .22 ammunition comes 450 or 500 rounds to a "brick," which is pretty much the minimal purchase. If you go plinking with a .22 on a weekend, shooting through a couple bricks is no big deal. It’s like getting a second bucket of balls at the batting cage.

I couldn’t be sure from the article, but it sounded like he had three or four different calibers of gun, plus two shotguns. 2500 rounds sounds to me like about 500 per caliber, which is what most people would have on hand just to make sure they don’t have to make a special trip to the store before heading to the range.

To me, sounds like dude was a hobbyist, not a serious shooter (and certainly not competitive - competitive shooters will go through hundreds a week), and not even close to "prepared for bad things."

#Comment Re: Skeptical about justice from this dude made: 2018-11-21 22:25:18.559212+00 by: Mars Saxman

There's a list in the last link: he had two shotguns, a revolver, a semi-auto pistol, and a rifle, plus an oddball collectible bullpup rifle which was "still in the box". Doesn't sound like any more of a gun hobbyist than your average middle-aged Republican white guy.

Not to diminish the heinousness of his abusive murderous asshole nature, of course; but I don't think his firearms collection is a useful indicator.

#Comment Re: Skeptical about justice from this dude made: 2018-11-26 03:39:44.682957+00 by: Dan Lyke

Wow. I actually thought ammo was more expensive than that. I have occasionally thought it'd be fun to get a handgun for target shooting, but was always under the impression that ammo was way more expensive than a few cents a shot.

(The 2,500 rounds was just copied from their headline, so, yes, it was my failure to double-check the sanity of a news operation.)

#Comment Re: Skeptical about justice from this dude made: 2018-11-26 10:12:34.449488+00 by: DaveP

Depends on the caliber. .22 LR is pretty dang cheap. 9mm isn’t bad, and also is sold in 350-500 round bulk packs. Larger stuff is generally more expensive. But if you want to shoot target with a .22, you can feed that habit fairly inexpensively, especially if you buy your ammunition in bulk and have thousands of rounds on hand to make for a lurid headline.

It’s not as cheap as the late 90s when I started shooting and .22 could be found for slightly over a penny per bang, but it’s still affordable. Doing a quick check at cheaperthandirt.com shows 400 rounds of .22 for $20. Nickel per bang isn’t bad at all.

#Comment Re: Skeptical about justice from this dude made: 2018-11-26 18:04:00.532185+00 by: Dan Lyke

Yeah, I was seeing 5k rounds of .22 LR at less than $.04/per. Given that we've certainly seen food prices go up 3-4x since the '90s, that seems like reasonable inflation.

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